EC Meeting July 2022

“Yes, but in other places too. You know how many Turkish bases there are here now? Around 60 I heard, something like this. “There are much more. I think something like 85. They are far into Kurdistan, they even have a base in Mosul now too. This is a big occupation. They are building roads and planning to stay here… Like in Idlib. Are they using Turkish currency, that kind of thing? “No, they are not using this yet. But maybe they will. 2023 is a big year. Turkey is preparing for this. You mean Treaty of Lausanne anniversary? “Yes. It is one hundred years since. Turkey says it will expire and it can take land. Erdogan wants Mosul. He might try and take Kirkuk too and other places. This is why they are here. Why is nothing being said about Turkey’s war here? “Barzani likes Turkey. He sells it oil. Turkey makes him and his family rich. They are corrupt and do not care about Kurdish people. “But same for US and Nato and UN. Britain too. They sell Turkey weapons and Erdogan does what they want too. It is part of an international conspiracy against Kurds. They want our oil and land. What about chemical weapons? Are they being used? “Yes, Turkey is using them on guerrilla fighters. PKK tunnels especially. They did this many times and they know that nobody will say anything. PKK is a terrorist group so it is easy. You think more than 400 times they have done this? “No, I do not think this. It could be, but I think this number is too high. I do not know how many times, but it is a lot.

What about KDP field hospitals that PKK says have been set up to treat people and then telling them to be quiet about it? Something like 500 people? “I do not know about this. It does not seem to be likely. This cannot happen. When did they say this and where did it happen?”

Last year.

“I don’t think so.”

G “I am a shepherd. My animals have been killed in Turkey attacks. They just killed them for no reason. What did they do? Why did they do this? “I am a good Muslim man. I pray every day and go to mosque. Sometime their people come there and tell us things about PKK. I don’t know about PKK. I never saw them, I swear this. “I pray and thank God for my life. But I ask him why he sent these people to terrorise us. Why did this happen? “I think they used chemicals on animals. I went to see them and they were dead. But there was burning near to them. It lasted many days and I could not put it out. I could not go near the cows. “I just want to live in peace. I want Turkish soldiers to leave. I do not hate Turkey. But why they keep killing us? H “I am very afraid. I am scared that they [Barzani] will catch me and torture me. They are bad people. Thank you for coming. Please tell world about the Kurds. We don’t want to die. “Tell your government and make it stop. We love England [meaning Britain] and Kurds are good people. We are helping people and do not hurt others.”

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